PLEASE READ: Off the road declaration/SORD

The new system requires a vehicle owner to declare their vehicle off the road in advance by completing form RF150 Declaration of Non-Use of a Motor Vehicle.

Purchasing a car:
So if you purchase a car, You have 10 days from purchase (Even if previous owner has declared it, It's cancelled when it's sold) to either tax it/declare it off the road with an RF150.

Tax is only payable from the 1st of the month in which your purchase it, You do not have to pay arrears if your only after purchasing it once you get it taxed/sorned within 10 days. (Previous owner is also not liable for arrears)

Re-Taxing during SORN period:
You can cancel the declaration at any time by renewing your tax in your local motor tax office. The tax will commence from the first day of the month in which you tax the vehicle.

Before SORN expires:
When your SORN is about to expire, You should get a renewal in which you can either re-tax the vehicle or declare it off the road for a further amount of time. Just call into/post the RF150 to your local tax office

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Heard from a reliable source this evening the deadline on Monday may be extended (?) due to the rather large Q's trailing out the doors of the tax offices nationwide during the week submitting their forms and the inability of public servants to do their job under pressure. Lets wait and see what happens.


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As long as you post it tomorrow then you're covered. Anything with a post mark dated on or before tomorrow will be treated as being received on time. I posted mine off about 4 weeks ago for the e36, I got a receipt by post a few days later.
You should be able to do this online & also be able to renew online. Ridiculous carry on with the queues in the Motor Tax office!

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Originally Posted by BMW

I meant to post this a few weeks back but anyway, Anyway incase anyone has forgot or doesn't know it needs to be done THIS monday as in tomorrow!

You need an RF100 signed by a Guard and RF150 to declare for future use.

Easier to explain with an example, My E36 tax is out since 9/11. So I got RF100 signed and stamped by a Guard to state it wasn't used from 1/10/11 until 31/8/13, Then I filled in an RF150 and declared it won't be used from 1/9/13 until 31/8/14. Took both into the tax office and was issued a SORD receipt.

According to various sorces I'v red, Declarations need to be on their desk by closing time Monday, Anything received after will need 3 months tax to be paid before it can be SORD as the 3 month transition period ends 31st September.

In other words, Back tax will be owed from 1st October until you decide to tax it.
Only way out is to transfer the car into someone elses name, Tax will be only payable from the 1st of the month you become owner.

Sorry if it's hard to follow, I'm posting from my phone but any questioms just ask and I'll try answer.

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taken from here : http://www.citizensinformation.ie/en/travel_and_recreation/motoring_1/motor_tax_and_insurance/motor_tax_rates.html

Vehicle off the road
New procedures are being introduced for declaring a vehicle is temporarily off the road so that you do not have to pay motor tax for that period.

From 1 October 2013 you are required to declare in advance that your vehicle will be off the road and not in use for a period of between 3 and 12 months using Declaration of Non-Use of a Motor Vehicle Form RF150 (pdf), which you submit to your motor tax office. The declaration of non-use must be made in the same month that your current motor tax disc expires. If arrears in motor tax are due these must be paid in full and you must also pay a minimum of 3 months motor tax, before a declaration of non-use can be made.

That's one of my gripes with the new system .

I have an e-mail from them telling me both the Alpina and the E46 are declared off the road now, but still haven't received the official notification back through the post

Sent the E34 one in a few weeks ago but again no notification back in post, so fired off another one on Friday to them just in case

Like RR above, I think it's an absolute disgrace that this "system" has been brought in without an on-line capability. We want to be taken seriously by the wider world, but stuff like this just makes us look a bit backwards

The implementation of this system is flawed, and yes, there should be an on-line method but the hysteria around deadlines, having the right forms, queues etc is getting on my wick!!
I wouldn't be a champion of civil servants but those on the front line in the motor tax offices are not at fault here. From what I saw when I was in a few weeks ago, you would need the patience of Jobe being behind the counter!

The process for SORD was flagged months ago but in the typical Irish approach to bureaucracy, most people leave it until the last minute and then complain when they don't have the right forms signed or stamped or that queues are out the door.

Those complaining now are either the feckless who couldn't be a***d doing anything sooner, or the '3 on, 2 off' brigade who are making use of the current system until the last possible moment and are now at risk of being caught out. Either way, I don't have much sympathy.

I agree it's not the fault of the "front-line", and the issue really lies in the whole idea of road tax (aka "motor tax"), but that's a separate discussion. However, the idea behind the public service is to serve the public, and this just isn't happening. If a restaurant or a book shop, as an example, decided to run the same opening hours as these motor tax offices, how long would they stay in business. It's not my problem that they can't cope with this new system, that should have been anticipated beforehand. If the government really wanted their "missing €80 million" from motor tax, they would have made it easier on everyone involved

The problem is that the government just wants everyone spending again, be it houses, new cars, whatever, as that's where they get their filthy lucre through VAT, VRT, stamp duty, etc. A few quid from car tax is feck all in comparison, so they're trying to force the hand of older car owners. Sure it's going on everywhere eg they've cut the interest rates on savings accounts again and raiding pensions, IMO to force people away from these sensible options into spending, in the blinkered view of getting the problems in this little country resolved short-term, and then hopefully the serious long-term issues will be some other group of politician's problem down the line

And breath...rant over... ;)

A lot of different issues there Leins and I agree with you on most. Anyway back to a relaxing Sunday watching the MotoGP lads do battle!

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As long as you post it tomorrow then you're covered. Anything with a post mark dated on or before tomorrow will be treated as being received on time. I posted mine off about 4 weeks ago for the e36, I got a receipt by post a few days later.
You should be able to do this online & also be able to renew online. Ridiculous carry on with the queues in the Motor Tax office!

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I registered post mine 8 days ago

Do I get or need a receipt?

What happens is you buy a car after oct 1st and thats been sitting up for a long time but previous owner never declared it off the road?

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Originally Posted by ginoc

What happens is you buy a car after oct 1st and thats been sitting up for a long time but previous owner never declared it off the road?

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Your only responsible from the 1st of the month you buy it, Same as it is currently.

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Originally Posted by E36Austin

I registered post mine 8 days ago

Do I get or need a receipt?

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Send them an email at the tax office you sent it into Austin. To be fair they're fairly decent in there and should let you know if it's been processed, and at least you'll have confirmation then. I've still not got a phyisical piece of paper from them though

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Originally Posted by E36Austin

I registered post mine 8 days ago

Do I get or need a receipt?

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Send them an email at the tax office you sent it into Austin. To be fair they're fairly decent in there and should let you know if it's been processed, and at least you'll have confirmation then. I've still not got a phyisical piece of paper from them though

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Decent lads to let me know I don't own the car:s
Anyone else get one of these?

What's going on there??

Stick your reg in motortax.ie and see when the last change of ownership was

Did you sign and send off the log book yourself ?

Saying it was transferred to someone only two weeks ago :huh:

What that tell me then is,

I transfer ownership as i owed back tax. It give ten days for Non use immediately following purchase of a second hand vehicle.

If you only have 10 to fill the form in and it take 12 to process are you hit with 3 months tax?

One to watch out for. The Tax office processed my form on the 19 and the car was not registered on till the 30. I'm in the system so i should be fine.

Looks like Leins was right as well they might be charging next year to process the form

the plot thickens 530 was off the road since end of july as i had the 3 series tax and nct'd for her and i was using the bike or the jeep for work,so sent in the forms both to say it was off the road from july/aug and it would be off the road for the forseeable future,then as most of you know sold the three and went to tax the 5 but was told there was a back log of forms and until i get the reciept from the tax office i cant tax it unless i pay all back tax:(i thought id be clever antisapating this so i photocopied all paper work before sending it off and even on producing this i was poliety told to fuck off until i get the reciept,so after a heated descussion with the tax office sup i got a stamped form stating that i had tried to tax the 530 and couldnt because its not on there system,

oh i forgot to mention that i was told if i want to tax it, it would have to taxed from july i told him to shove it and ill take my chances and id see him in court if need be

i explained its not my fault that you dont have enough time during the day to input car reg details,he replyed "that people shouldnt be leaving it to the last min "which i agreed but told him he got mine at the start of august why is it taking so long??and since the goverment knew about this months ago why didnt they have an online system setup months ago and not after this all kicked off,that shut him up:P:P:D:D

good side to all stories i suppose ,im using the car and have been stopped for no tax, showed the gaurd the stamped form and i got a "sure its some pile of shite they have setup, fecking goverment:huh::D:D:Ddrive safe,nice car""thanks gaurd see ya"

and on a lighter note when ever the reciept finally arrives in ill only have to tax it from then:D:D

I got an e-mail from them saying they had received the declaration for the M5, but hadn't had a chance to process it yet. I think the government are hoping that we'll all think it's just too much trouble, and go out and buy more 132-reg cars

Has anyone not received their receipt of declaration yet? I sent declarations to the Ballymun tax office for the e30 and the e36 at the end of September.

I received the receipt for the e36 in the post but nothing yet for the e30. Is anyone else in the same boat? Are they that far behind in their processing or have I an issue?

Got mine for the E36 quite quickly. Sent it into town back in October.


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Got mine for the E36 quite quickly. Sent it into town back in October.


Regards,

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Thanks. I'll have to email them so.

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Has anyone not received their receipt of declaration yet? I sent declarations to the Ballymun tax office for the e30 and the e36 at the end of September.

I received the receipt for the e36 in the post but nothing yet for the e30. Is anyone else in the same boat? Are they that far behind in their processing or have I an issue?

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in September i think ,i sent 3 letters in one envelope .1th for my E36 M3 for non use for last month ,2th for same M3 for off road in future and 3th for off road for some E39 . in month time got letter for E39 only and never received any note for E36 M3 .now,maybe 2 weeks back got warning for non taxed E36 M3 . last week went to tax office for a talk .they checked system and said that they see in history that form was filled but it didnt went throw the system ,so they redone it manually and i got it off road till summer
BTW i brought envelope straight to post office post box ,special for these forms

Thanks, at least it's not just me so!
There were 2 forms for the e30 one covering the historic period and the second for the future so that might be it.

I got all mine, but they took a while John. I sent a couple of e-mails, and each time was told that they had received the forms but not processed them yet. Then a few days later through they came in the post

I got mine the week they closed to clear the back log.

I declared my e36 off the road online, but wasn't sure if I was to expect a letter or not.....haven't received anything to say she's off the road! Should I be worried?

I wouldn't worry about it to be honest, think of the amount of cars they have to go through and for statistics purposes they need to sort all the cars into groups to see how many of what is off the road.


I had aweful trouble as 2 of the cars I off the roaded were my late fathers in his name and no present tax books. However as soon as I had handed in the rf100 and 150 and I had the written recept, my job was done. Anything else was their job IMO.

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I got mine within 2 weeks John.

Maybe give them a call/email/pigeon


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We got ours just last week. Took a good while. Are they doing this regionally? Seems to be varying amounts of time for everybody?

Did we expect less?

I know of someone who was late declaring a car (After the deadline), Off the road since '97 and they got a letter a week back asking for €2,500 in arrears!!

There was also a guy in the tax office today who paid €1,200 in arrears on a tractor.

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I know of someone who was late declaring a car (After the deadline), Off the road since '97 and they got a letter a week back asking for €2,500 in arrears!!

There was also a guy in the tax office today who paid €1,200 in arrears on a tractor.

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Why did they just not put it into someone elses name and then back into their own?

Have heard of people in the tax office telling people to do this to avoid arrears...

Anyone know how to sign it back on the road? More than likely putting mine back on February. And the online system is a joke and wasnt allowing on the road declarations last year.so what is the steps to get it back on. No way im travelling all the way to city centre to get back on the road.

Post ? forms ?

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Anyone know how to sign it back on the road? More than likely putting mine back on February. And the online system is a joke and wasnt allowing on the road declarations last year.so what is the steps to get it back on. No way im travelling all the way to city centre to get back on the road.

Post ? forms ?

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Post with an RF100A form:

https://www.motortax.ie/OMT/pdf/RF100A_en.pdf

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Originally Posted by listermint

Anyone know how to sign it back on the road? More than likely putting mine back on February. And the online system is a joke and wasnt allowing on the road declarations last year.so what is the steps to get it back on. No way im travelling all the way to city centre to get back on the road.

Post ? forms ?

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To be honest James your better off going in yourself I know it can be a pain in the arse but I would hate to think the car is back on the road after posting it in and the Garda take it off you and you get a €4000 fine.
I had a 5 series 2 days and was taken off me and cost €300 to get it back. The paper work will have cleared straight away if you do it in person.

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Anyone know how to sign it back on the road? More than likely putting mine back on February. And the online system is a joke and wasnt allowing on the road declarations last year.so what is the steps to get it back on. No way im travelling all the way to city centre to get back on the road.

Post ? forms ?

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To be honest James your better off going in yourself I know it can be a pain in the a*** but I would hate to think the car is back on the road after posting it in and the Garda take it off you and you get a €4000 fine.
I had a 5 series 2 days and was taken off me and cost €300 to get it back. The paper work will have cleared straight away if you do it in person.

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It would be nice, but i cant be talking days off work for car tax, utter madness. Was alright if they had the office in clondalkin still open but sure that intelligent ship has sailed.

This is all a bit confusing,

Can anybody tell me exactly what il need to do to declare a car off the road. The car hasn't been on the road since Nov when the tax ran up. Wasn't planning on having it back on the road until April/May......

Do I need a form stamped by Gards?? Will I have to back tax it??

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This is all a bit confusing,

Can anybody tell me exactly what il need to do to declare a car off the road. The car hasn't been on the road since Nov when the tax ran up. Wasn't planning on having it back on the road until April/May......

Do I need a form stamped by Gards?? Will I have to back tax it??

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Think you will be hit for 3 month back tax and 3 month starting feb 1

No more Garda stamps. If it not declared it is deemed to be on the road.

Rf150 form

Correct me if I'm wrong please

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Originally Posted by Remote

This is all a bit confusing,

Can anybody tell me exactly what il need to do to declare a car off the road. The car hasn't been on the road since Nov when the tax ran up. Wasn't planning on having it back on the road until April/May......

Do I need a form stamped by Gards?? Will I have to back tax it??

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Think you will be hit for 3 month back tax and 3 month starting feb 1

No more Garda stamps. If it not declared it is deemed to be on the road.

Rf150 form

Correct me if I'm wrong please

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I agree. If it was me I'd do nothing until the month it goes back on the road, then pay the 3 months arrears and whatever tax you want.