Between timing chain issues and other common failures, one has to wonder, is there a new/new-ish BMW Car/Engine that has proved to be trouble-free and reliable?
Please reply based on first hand experience only!
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Between timing chain issues and other common failures, one has to wonder, is there a new/new-ish BMW Car/Engine that has proved to be trouble-free and reliable?
Please reply based on first hand experience only!
All engines/cars have common failure points or pattern failures. Are you referring more so to design flaws?
M57 is pretty hassle free.
Yep, design flaws, known faults. Anything that goes wrong on several examples that shouldn't go wrong on a new car basically!Quote:
Originally Posted by Venom
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Are they not affected by timing chain issues as well? Or which 6 pot diesels have the chain issues?Quote:
Originally Posted by Dave
Valdas posted an example of an M57 with timing chain issues but it subsequently turned out that the car had 400k km on it, so not really a fair example.Quote:
Originally Posted by Peter-E36
The N57's have problems though.
If looked after correct but yeah it and the m47 are great engines!Quote:
Originally Posted by Dave
That's probably the same for most engines apart from the likes of N4/57 diesels and N40/2/5/6 petrols.
So Diesel: Go for M57 (if well maintained), avoid N4/57.
What about Petrol engines? The 4 pots wouldn't be of any interest, so re: the 6 pots - what are the ones that proved to be reliable, and the ones that proved to have design faults or common problems?
Edit: Wasn't just talking about engines by the way, cars in general. It's no good if the engine is healthy and the rest of the car falls apart... Heard the 335i have HPFP, water pump, and turbo issues?
I think if you follow the rule that if the chain is at the block then budget for that to be replaced.
How do I know if it is? :pQuote:
Originally Posted by Smokey Bear
From personal experience the 335i is sound enough! When I was researching them I had heard of faulty light modules and turbo issues. But regular oil checks and changes and servicing etc. should be no problem. Water pump issues yeah, but in fairness, the computers and sensors give plenty of warning and make it very very difficult to drive a car if there's something wrong. It's actually one of the drivers aids I'm thankful for!
What I would be doing now, is if looking at a 335, or any newer model for that matter,check servicing but always always have some contingency for the 'just-in-case' scenario!
As we chatted about before, I have my e92, 2 years and bar the bit of lovin she's getting now out in super4, she hasn't let me down!! My e46 325 on the other hand.......... Well don't get me started on that!!
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Nice one Paddy! I'm considering an e92 325/30/35i as a replacement for the e36. I don't fancy any diesels at all for some reason.. I'm in no rush whatsoever though, I want to do my homework and get something I can just sit in and drive without worrying about any maintenance outside regular servicing.
i dont fancy any petrol engined E90-E92 ,not included M3 of course . its up to everyones choise
There's a nice black one with the same spec as mine but has no aero-kit but does have a sun-roof! Think it has 65k miles. It was posted in the donedeal thread not so long ago!
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Tell a lie! It's blue!Quote:
Originally Posted by Paddy
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Originally Posted by Peter-E36
Sorry I meant at the back of the block.
That's lovely, I saw it when it posted alright. Any ideas why e92 335ii's are always se? Is it the VRT? Surely someone would've been happy to get one in m-sport guise new?
Could be that when they released it there was no m-sport?! Not too sure but I think m-sport always came a year or 2 after each model release! And given the tax system here changed it meant no one was buying new 335s in 08. In 09 the engine's were more efficient so they were cheaper to tax! Just my theory anyway!Quote:
Originally Posted by Peter-E36
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Is it just personal preference Valdas or due to issues with the petrol ones?Quote:
Originally Posted by Valdelisbmw
both ,but more to petrol engine issuesQuote:
Originally Posted by Peter-E36
What kind of issues do the petrol ones have?Quote:
Originally Posted by Valdelisbmw
injectors ,chains ,sensors ,oil pumps ,ignition coils and so on
I give up on BMWs.... :D
How come Mondeos don't have these problems? :p
becouse they are shite in general and has other troublesQuote:
Originally Posted by Peter-E36
They sure are :D
The N62B44 fitted to the E63 and E65 is deemed to be one of the more reliable BMW engines I believe.
If road tax isn't a big deal for you there are a few E63's out there. Only available in 2004 and 2005 though.
N62B48 was fitted to the 650i but scarce enough I'd imagine.
have u ever had one of them with aound 100k on clocks or over? or had at all?Quote:
Originally Posted by The Scout
No, I have not. How about yourself? :smiling:Quote:
Originally Posted by Valdelisbmw
Because there junk, either piss oil out of every seal or out the exhaust!Quote:
Originally Posted by Valdelisbmw
Including valve stem seals every 60k ,chain guides and as Healyc said oil every thereQuote:
Originally Posted by HealyC
Fair enough lads. I didn't realise they were that troublesome. I was looking at buying an E63 earlier in the year and when I did my bit of research I couldn't find any major flaws reported like the usual Nikasil-Swirl Flaps-Timing Chain stuff that has affected large amounts of BMW engines.
So apologies to the OP, I certainly wasn't trying to give bad advice, just suggesting a car that I would have been happy to buy myself!
And thanks to the two lads for pointing the issues out.
Surely if the valve stem seals were done once and better quality parts were fitted the repair would last longer than 60k? Or is OEM replacement the only option?
It seems there is no BMW engine without its faults, some worse than others, maybe it's the same for every manufacturer.
Honestly there's no such thing as a "good" engine or car anymore. They simply are just not built as good as they used to be.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Scout
Even jap cars these days have flaws, that was not the case 10-15yrs ago!
Thanks Mark and everyone who replied, yea it sucks that there is no real solid options for a reliable car/engine anymore, seems you just have to pick what you like and go for it. And buy a comprehensive warranty/insurance :p
Question now is 135i / 335i / or Z4 3.0 SI? I'll post a poll now I think :)
But do the N52 and N54 engines not have their issues also?Quote:
Originally Posted by Peter-E36
Just avoid bmws, shite yokes driven by shite bags, 1999 clio for sale if anyone's interested, no known flaws, no test but should fly thru. . . . . . . . .