RE: PLEASE READ: Off the road declaration/SORD
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Originally Posted by Remote
This is all a bit confusing,
Can anybody tell me exactly what il need to do to declare a car off the road. The car hasn't been on the road since Nov when the tax ran up. Wasn't planning on having it back on the road until April/May......
Do I need a form stamped by Gards?? Will I have to back tax it??
Stupid rule, But you can only SORD a car BEFORE the current tax expires, Not after.
So you'd need to pay 3 months arrears before they allow you to SORD it.
Or you could sell it to a family member/neighbours dog etc.. and the they would be liable from the 1st of the month of purchase. So they buy it today and SORD it straight away from Jan 1st.
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RE: PLEASE READ: Off the road declaration/SORD
That is a load of Balls Cox, seriously what was the person smoking who thought of that, so I can only declare a car off the road while it is taxed......another money racket.
For example, my car was in tax when I left it into a garage to have some work done, the car ended up staying there longer than expected and is now out of tax. I haven't been driving it since November, but id now have to tax it for 3 months, circa 400 Euro, even though the car has not been on the road and wont be on the road until the summer in order for me to declare it off the road..... It's actually funny how backward that is.
So I would have had to get a special form, prob in a Garda station, then go into the tax office with it to declare a car off the road, even though it is in tax...... otherwise I will have to pay three months tax even if it hasn't been on the road if the tax runs out. Seriously I would like to give whoever implemented this system a rock bottom followed by a sharpshooter......idiots
RE: PLEASE READ: Off the road declaration/SORD
Theres no ability to sign it off the road retrospecively anymore. You're on the hook for a minimum of 3 months tax from December. (unless you 'sell' it and 'buy' it back as mentioned above - 2 additional owners on the log book though)
Once I got the renewal for the M3, I took the PIN number and declared it off the road for the full year. At that stage there was a chance that I'd renew the tax, but didn't want to take the chance of forgetting to make the SORD declaration.
When I want to tax it again I just fill in the form and post it off, no visit to the Garda station required. You can't renew online at the moment if there is a SORD in place without it trying to charge you backtax apparently.
RE: PLEASE READ: Off the road declaration/SORD
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Originally Posted by kdevitt
You can't renew online at the moment if there is a SORD in place without it trying to charge you backtax apparently.
Is it possible to declare a car off the road, then when it's time to re-tax it apply online for a new pin using the last 7 digits of VIN, then taxing online that way??
RE: PLEASE READ: Off the road declaration/SORD
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Originally Posted by Paddy
Is it possible to declare a car off the road, then when it's time to re-tax it apply online for a new pin using the last 7 digits of VIN, then taxing online that way??
Apparently not, but I haven't tried. You can renew it online no problem - but it shows your SORD period as being arrears which need to be paid. I'd imagine they'll fix the system pretty soon.
RE: PLEASE READ: Off the road declaration/SORD
So if I declared the car SORND for a year, at the end of November last before my tax ran out, but I then wanted to take it out on the road in June, is there a penalty?? or is there no problem if I want to take the car out 6 months into a 12 months SORND period , could I just tax it for three months in June, then SORN it again three months later before my three months tax runs out??
RE: PLEASE READ: Off the road declaration/SORD
Is it correct that if you wish to put a car back on the road before the declaration of non use is up you will have to pay some back tax. ie it can't be taxed from the exact date it goes back on the road
RE: PLEASE READ: Off the road declaration/SORD
RE: PLEASE READ: Off the road declaration/SORD
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Originally Posted by Venom
Is it correct that if you wish to put a car back on the road before the declaration of non use is up you will have to pay some back tax. ie it can't be taxed from the exact date it goes back on the road
The car must be taxed from the 1st day of the month in which it goes back on the road, same as before.
If you put the car back on the road before the expiration of a non use period you do not need to pay arrears, only pay the tax from the 1t day of the month you put it back on the road. This assumes you tax it in the same month as it goes back on the road and that arrears are not genuinely owed.
RE: PLEASE READ: Off the road declaration/SORD
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Originally Posted by Remote
So if I declared the car SORND for a year, at the end of November last before my tax ran out, but I then wanted to take it out on the road in June, is there a penalty?? or is there no problem if I want to take the car out 6 months into a 12 months SORND period , could I just tax it for three months in June, then SORN it again three months later before my three months tax runs out??
Theres no penalty for you to do this - you just pay tax from June onwards for 3/6/12 months. The SORN is cancelled as soon as the car is taxed. As John said - you pay tax for the full month where it goes back on the road, so not much sense in sticking tax on the car on the 25th June when you can wait 5 days and get the whole of July for example.
Its for that reason alone that you'd be mad to do anything other than a 12 month SORN declaration - no point in risking the SORN expiring and you being back on the hook for arrears.
Probably ploughing a lone furrow here, but I'm a fan of the system. Bit more system automation and it'll be good.